New TVR Male, June 2010

[BruceP]

We decided to get a tvr and this male caught our eye from xxxxxxxxxxxx. Paul gratiously donated it to the Louisville Koi and Goldfish Society for their auction so they benefitted from it and we saved some money getting started in TVR's. Thanx Paul. Will add females as we go and $ are there. I think this one is a good starter for us. I don't know the bloodline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1n4tAHNuc

[BruceP]

Stills of the new TVR

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/23tbucket/Japanese%20Ranchu%202010/TVR1007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/23tbucket/Japanese%20Ranchu%202010/TVR1006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/23tbucket/Japanese%20Ranchu%202010/TVR1005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/23tbucket/Japanese%20Ranchu%202010/TVR1009.jpg

[small_ranchu]

It's a good start..

Good head and tail.

Issue: Peduncle is too long and thin.

[johnatoranchu]

We decided to get a tvr and this male caught our eye from xxxxxxxxxxxx. Paul gratiously donated it to the Louisville Koi and Goldfish Society for their auction so they benefitted from it and we saved some money getting started in TVR's. Thanx Paul. Will add females as we go and $ are there. I think this one is a good starter for us. I don't know the bloodline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1n4tAHNuc

Looks like an excellent starter fish Bruce. When selecting a female try to find one which has a short thick peduncle - don't worry if it lacks head. Also if this male has any deficiencies from the side view try to find a female which counteracts those deficiencies.
John

[bigbettadan]

Agreed, nice start! I pretty much echo everyone else's sentiments. A female with a wide peduncle and less space between the belly and tail shoulder.

Dan

[suphi]

It's a very good fish--show grade, imo--just too skinny. Bulk it up and you'll see the full potential--one month of intensive feedings should do it. Peduncle might become shorter if the belly expands southward.

[suphi]

My Sugi (your fish's sibling) when I got him.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/4451130399_e46cdfdb9f.jpg


After powerfeeding. Note the width of the belly compared to the wen. You can do this easily judging from what you did with your oranda.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_MGfznEsT6tU/TAgZ2eBO5yI/AAAAAAAAAN8/HzBgTsbKbUg/DSC_6945.jpg

[Ranchumaniax]

HI Bruce,

Like I told you at the show, the fish need foods. Just heavy feed them for a month. And you'll see what you got! I just can't keep up with feeding to all my fish...

It's a good fish even for the hardcore keeper!

Paul

[suphi]

These guys can eat a ton of food and remain robust. Mine feels like a solid chunk of meat every time I pick him up during water change--virtually no soft part except at the wen.

[Ranchumaniax]

P'Suphi,

Try less water change and more feeding, but watch out for water quality by adding more power filter. Aged water might do the trick! I am currently working on 5-6 TVR now on fatting them up.

Paul

[BruceP]

Im stuffin' him!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Thanx guys for the comments. I think he is a good fish but as Paul told me he needs to fill out. Problem is, the shows will be over in less than a month and Im not sure he will fill out in that amount of time... oh well, there's next year. :) Maybe he will make some pretty babies over the winter. :)

[Ranchumaniax]

I guess I'll have to bring a female, Just for you, to Chicago next month. Special fish at special price......Time to save-up, Bruce! >:)

Paul

[OrandaLover1028]

I'd take some of thoes babies too bruce! ;) ill have to get some pics of my lil one up too! I really do love the color of yours. ;)

[suphi]

I guess I'll have to bring a female, Just for you, to Chicago next month. Special fish at special price......Time to save-up, Bruce! >:)
Paul

I might need a female at special price, too.

[Ranchumaniax]

For you, Female gotta be either TVR119 or TVR120, right?

[suphi]

For you, Female gotta be either TVR119 or TVR120, right?

I thought #119 wants to be with Gary. >:)
Can't afford #120 right now...you sure both of them are female?

[BruceP]

Send me 119 and 120........ I cant decide which I like. I'll choose one and maybe send the other back.... I'll pay....... someday.... maybe... LOL



Lisa.... how about starting a thread with pix of your new fish???? And NO, I'm not sharing... LOL

[Ranchumaniax]

I thought #119 wants to be with Gary. >:)
Can't afford #120 right now...you sure both of them are female?

119 still here, and gary just wants to dream about her for now. And yes, I am pretty sure they're both female. I have checked and Mr. Boss confirmed!

On 120, if you really interesting. We can make a deal. Just call me!

Paul

[johnatoranchu]

Im stuffin' him!!!!!!!!!!!! lol Thanx guys for the comments. I think he is a good fish but as Paul told me he needs to fill out. Problem is, the shows will be over in less than a month and Im not sure he will fill out in that amount of time... oh well, there's next year. :) Maybe he will make some pretty babies over the winter. :)

Take care with the "stuffin'" Bruce if your main objective is to breed from him. Breeding boys are best kept lean and active.
John

[BruceP]

Take care with the "stuffin'" Bruce if your main objective is to breed from him. Breeding boys are best kept lean and active.
John

I was kidding... Im feeding him well but not 'Stuffin'.. LOL "Pot-bellied Ranchu" is not a pretty thought >:)

[OrandaLover1028]

Im right there with you bruce! My babies have been eatin like piggys since i got that green bag hikira from paul.man they L.O.V.E that stuff! I ordered a auto feeder to help out cause im gone a lot durring the day so ive been doing most of my feedings in the evening. want to try and even things out :) Should be here in a couple of days. :)

[BruceP]

He died!
I noticed he didnt go for his food yesterday morning. Went down to check on him several hours later and we wasnt swimming around. I went back to working outside and about3pm I went back to check on him and he was dead. I checked his gills and they were very pale and his slime coat seemed heavy. I didnt scope, just bagged him and stuck him in the freezer. One thing struck me as odd. When I went down there he looked like he was swimming a few inches under the surface, level, like he was alive; wasnt upside down or on his side or anything. I, for an instant though he was alive. Not sure Ive ever had a fish do that before.
Oh well, TVR's someday.... maybe. Or maybe we'll stick to breeding orandas, tosakin,veils, an occasional ryukin, pearlies, and now possibly chochokin. :)

[small_ranchu]

Sorry to hear about that.. :rip:

[suphi]

Ouch, sorry.

[bigbettadan]

Gill infection...... I have been there, especially with older imports..:rip:


If you really want to join the ranchu brotherhood, we will get you started!:exact:

Dan

[suphi]

Someone should give him some of your babies. We need more ranchu breeders.:exact:

I think that larger/older fish do take bigger hit from shipment. From my past experiences, they always sulk for several days and they get infection--breakout easily. Smaller/younger ones usually swims normally right away. Having said that, I still prefer to buy larger fish since I know exactly what I'm getting.

[Ranchumaniax]

One thing about TVR, is they're quite delicate! I do take my time for fish to rest and only treated with salt. After a week, then i followed up with light ProfromC and then prazipro. I haven't feed them for almost 2 weeks after the show.

The first time i have imported TVR was in 2007. Only couple pieces, say 5 pieces. All of them are dead after 2 weeks. Most problem I've face with TVR are either gill infection or gill-flukes. Like in your case, It sound more like gill fluke where fish died in good shape, ie. no floating or sinking but look like it's still alive.

No matter how good you are about handling fish. Most of the time when you first start touching TVR, You may kill the first one.

Anyways...I feel sorry for your lost, Bruce! Maybe if you want to give it a try again, I have babies. I'll bring them to Chicago so come in to select! I planning to bring the whole spawned, but all depending on other fish I'm bringing!

Paul

[OrandaLover1028]

I dont feel as guilty now reading your post paul. I had the same problem that bruce described with my lil black guy. I found him this morning kinda hovering at the bottom when i walked by n he didnt move i got conserned n got the net out and sure enough he was gone. ge had been acting a lil off for a couple days now and hardly ate at all yesterday. :( i was really excited about getting started with Ranchus too. :(

[Ranchumaniax]

It is not fun to see fish died, but goldfish are challenging!

[suphi]

Prazi + Oxolinic for all new fish, for a peace of mind.

[TheTruth]

We decided to get a tvr and this male caught our eye from xxxxxxxxxxxx. Paul gratiously donated it to the Louisville Koi and Goldfish Society for their auction so they benefitted from it and we saved some money getting started in TVR's. Thanx Paul. Will add females as we go and $ are there. I think this one is a good starter for us. I don't know the bloodline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1n4tAHNuc

nice fish .if you decide to breed try to get a related fish

[Hondataeg6]

nice fish .if you decide to breed try to get a related fish

His ranchu died.