Froozen bloodworms

[Hondataeg6]

Can froozen bloodworms go bad?

[bigbettadan]

Of course, they are frozen animals after all.

Dan

[Hondataeg6]

Is there an expiration date on the pack?? Or how should I know when they are still good?

[Ranchufan16]

i'm wondering the same thing though....I just bought some literally two days ago and the fish won't eat it, I went down twenty minutes later and it was all still sitting there at the bottom of the tub and the babies wouldn't even go near it...scooped it all out, fed pellets and they ate.......any ideas?

[kendal]

Can froozen bloodworms go bad?

forget to put them back in the freezer, then smell them the next day and you will have a very strong answer to your question.:exact:

however, if they are kept constantly frozen, they should last a LONG time. may not be as good, but should not go bad per se.

best indication is the color. they should be bright red. if they are bad they can be brownish. if they are light brown like fish poop, they are really bad.

i experienced the same. my ranchu had to be taught to eat them. initially they did not like them. let them get hungry and they will try them. it's green eggs and ham. once my fish recognized the FBW cube as food, they immediately started taking frozen mysis shrimp and gel food and anything else that came in a block. fish not taken from BBS to daphnia and copepods also seem to not recognize the bugs as food initally and spit them out. given a few days without alternative and they become junkies.

live/frozen foods are like goldfish crack—just takes a little exposure and peer pressure and they will be hooked for life.

it is less likely the FBW are bad than the fish just are not used to them—unless they were eating them before in which case i would take them back.

[kendal]

i'm wondering the same thing though....I just bought some literally two days ago and the fish won't eat it, I went down twenty minutes later and it was all still sitting there at the bottom of the tub and the babies wouldn't even go near it...scooped it all out, fed pellets and they ate.......any ideas?

no pellets. only FBW, but not too much to spoil the water until they start eating them. when they are hungry after skipping a few meals they will start trying everything. initially i think they think it is poop, not food.

ironically mine currently eat them frozen, but don't touch the live ones. time for reeducation.

[Ranchufan16]

no pellets. only FBW, but not too much to spoil the water until they start eating them. when they are hungry after skipping a few meals they will start trying everything. initially i think they think it is poop, not food.

ironically mine currently eat them frozen, but don't touch the live ones. time for reeducation.

I have been mixing the food, crushed sinking pellets (hikari) and the bloodworms and frozen brineshrimp.....they finally at the blood worms today...crazy lil buggers....

[kendal]

I have been mixing the food, crushed sinking pellets (hikari) and the bloodworms and frozen brineshrimp.....they finally at the blood worms today...crazy lil buggers....

ranchu are picky. and watch the language there are Brits on this forum-LOL

[fantail1]

and where do you think your Anglo-Saxon swear words come from? LOL

[kendal]

LOL

i had a roommate from York (the original one) and we had a habit of calling each other pet names. one night he said "goodnight sweetheart" to me and i replied something like "you're such a cute little bugger" and he turned green and bit my flew into me so fast my head spun. it took a bit to sort out what tripped him off. apparently bugger which is a common pet name used for a child in the US (meaning someone who pesters or "bugs") actually means something different (someone who commits buggery) and he was not amused that i called him one—LOL.

the comment brought that memory back. inside joke with myself.

as to where i think cursing comes from? i had always assumed my mother invented all those words.:youtellme:

[Ranchufan16]

:confuse:oh yaeh forgot. thanks.......

[kendal]

:confuse:oh yaeh forgot. thanks.......

i was just giving you a hard time and baiting our British brothers.

i spent a week in England a few years back and had to wash my ears out when i got home and that was just from watching children's TV programs—LOL. it funny that we speak the same language except for a few words. and even funnier that some of those words curl the others hair.

i was also surprised to learn that the English think that water is poisonous to drink—it's not, unless of course you are Irish than i think it is, or so my Irish mate keeps telling me. i don't drink (note where i am from) and so when i would go out to the pub with friends and order a water it was an ordeal.

"Guinness for my mate, and i'll just have a water."
"a logger?"
"water"
"logger"
" W A T E R"
"huh?"
"Water, like from the tap"
"The tap?"
"Yes, with ice"
"ok, with ice..." {looking around as not knowing which glass to use}
"Any glass. a pilsner will do fine"
"is this OK?" {slowly filling and handing me the glass}
"thank you." {everybody except the barman laughs to the point of falling off their stool}

for 3 nights is was the same thing. them my friend started doing the ordering thinking he could get his guenniss faster. he would spout off huge explanation about how to serve water out of the tap and the appropriate glass—too much fun. poor barkeeps thought he was a nut. i love England, food, rain and all! truely the most polite people on the planet. in all seriousness i want to emigrate—i will even learn the bloody language.

[Ranchufan16]

. i love England, food, rain and all! truely the most polite people on the planet. in all seriousness i want to emigrate—i will even learn the bloody language.[/QUOTE]
haha....Nice! LOL

[fantail1]

at the risk of lowering the tone a couple of additions to this debate:

The word Fag, what does it mean to you? It means (amongst other things) a Cigarette in Britain, so when in Canada the question "how much to fags cost?" brought about a puzzled look

And just to include our Aussie brothers in this. In the UK the leading brand of Condoms are Durex. In Australia, Durex is the name for sticky tape. Imagine how much fun (?!) you can have with that one!

As for your mother - well If I had used such language, my mother would have washed my mouth out with soap. You do call it soap, don't you?

And finally, if you want to get wet, try the log flume ride at Busch Gardens in Tampa. Followed by a Florida thunderstorm. I loved it!

[kendal]

And finally, if you want to get wet, try the log flume ride at Busch Gardens in Tampa. Followed by a Florida thunderstorm. I loved it!

i would be happy just to have it rain occasionally—i live in the desert.

ok, you brought it up.

same trip to England. We were staying in a B&B in the West Country. my friend and i always try to eat as local as possible when we travel. we meet up dining room and low and behold the daily special is "homemade faggots" with no descrition of what it is. I tell my friend that "no matter what it is, i am eating it." when the waitress comes my friend asks her "how are the house faggots" and would she recommend them. i am turning all shades of blue and biting my lip trying not to laugh. then he drops this "i think my friend here likes faggots" and i explode with laughter that i try to hide as a caugh. ugly Americans. she turns to me and askes me "do you like faggots?" by now i am unable to breathe but manage to ask what a faggot is. she replied "a caseless sausage". now under control again i inquire as to what it is made of thinking, species, like cow, pig, dingo, etc. but she replies with a list of organs and body parts that i did not know were even edible. i cut her off mid anatomy lesson and say "tha's enough, say no more. please. i'll get it." my friend who is now rather green after hearing the recipe, orders a salad—sissy. anyhow it was amazingly good i highly recommend...i am going to stop as this will come back to haunt me.

7 days with multiple animal "by-products" in every meal, and i never once had anything that was technically meat save bacon which is the main ingredient of every English dish i think—i love England! so my question is, what do you guys do with all the meat after you eat all the freaky and disgusting parts? you know it is edible just as much as water is dinkable—LOL i really love English food. truely the best cooks in the world live there—it takes skill to turn entrails into entrées, and such good ones at that. pass me some black pudding please!

there is one thing i just don't get though, and that's clotted cream. are you kidding me?! it's butter. my family has only been walking upright for two-and-a-half generations and i can hold down just about anything made of animal pieces and secretions, but my stomach can't do scoops of butter for desert that's too much. how you all don't drop dead at 13 from heart failure is a mystery to me.

for anyone who has not had a good English pudding (my ma will only make it once a year at Chistmas because of what's in it). it looks like a cake, tastes like heaven, but it has more cow in it than a steak. no kidding, you buy half the ingredients from the butcher and what you are buying in an "under the counter" item that's barely legal in the States—LOL. i highly recommend it if you have the means, and life insurance. i got to get back there.

what's this thread about again?

[fantail1]

who cares about the thread. Thank you, I was laughing out loud as I read that!

Lets start with the important bit. John Parker lives in a desert. Essex has been a desert for some years now (the definition being less than 12 inches of rain a year). Also, (and I hail from Essex so I can say this) there is a certain "cultural desert" view of Essex. Actually, it isn't cuturally lacking. Just different. For example, the lights at Southend on Sea (which is actually on the Thames, not the sea) Just like Las Vegas but with one light bulb. And until you have cruised (doesn't that word have multiple meanings?) the strip in Southend (pronounced sarrfend) you have not lived.

You ask about entrails. What do you think goes in Burgers and Chicken nuggets or the pepperoni on the pizza? We can't afford the nice bits of meat, they are exported somewhere (but not the US, clearly!). After all red meat is bad for you.

However, Cumberland Sausages are one of the finest foods known to mankind. But have you ever thought what the case is made from? Probably best not to!

Clotted cream, as part of a tourist cream tea, is wonderful. We sell them to unsuspecting American tourists. We are successfully exporting heart conditions across the developed world. Meanwhile, we eat rocket salad drizzled with extra virgin olive oil, paid for by the tourists dollars. Thank You!!

[kendal]

LOL

at one of the places i stayed, the host asked me what i wanted for breakfast and i said "something local." to which i replied "one traditional English breakfast coming up." what he brought me was bacon, eggs fried in bacon grease, potatoes fried in bacon grease, ham fried i bacon grease, black pudding fried in bacon grease, fry bread (toast fried in bacon grease) and tomatoes, you guessed it fried in bacon grease (which i think completely negates the fact that it is a fruit). to which i replied "good hell! this is what you eat every day?!" and the host replied. "are you kidding, that will kill you, it's what we feed the tourists." for safety reasons i book ended it with wheetabix.

this is the same guy who fed me clotted cream as a bunch of old ladies on holiday from London cheered me on like a bunch of frat boys. every meal there seamed to be like a episode of Fear Factor (don't know if they have that there). i swear they were trying to find something that i would refuse to eat. they were such good cooks, they could have made a shoe taste good. the clotted cream finally did me in and the old ladies laughed theirs down taunting me with "awe, give the poor yank a scoop of ice cream." that trip took a few years off my life for sure. what a wonderful place! my friend (the driver) lived for a weak on guinness and i on bacon grease—we were both in heaven.

[fantail1]

you need to try canned (or tinned?) draught Guinness (think about it - I am serious!) Wonderful stuff. Mr Guinness was English, by the way (don't let the Irish claim Guinness as theirs, even if they do supply the ingredients, the water, the labour...)

Next Thanksgiving or whenever, try Roast Potatoes in (guess what?) Bacon or Goose fat, you will love them.

I have to keep remembering the English and the Americans are separated by a common language.

[billys]

Don’t wish to complicate this discussion but in the North East of England people affectionately call children ‘little Buggers’ however the English meaning stands. But thats’ Geordies for you.

Best wishes Billy.

[fantail1]

little sods down south, but much the same really!

David

[bekko]

eat them frozen, but don't touch the live ones They may not be able to recognize that the live ones are there. Bloodworms can disguise their scent somehow. If you brush them off the bottom and break up the tube, the goldfish may become interested.

-steve

[Ranchufan16]

[QUOTE=fantail1;22058]who cares about the thread. Thank you, I was laughing out loud as I read that!

I care about the thread that is why I started, needed some help.......

[fantail1]

I am sorry - I thought you had got the answers and the problem was resolved.

[dragon eye]

Hey there FANTAIL, you brought some memories back when you mentioned goose grease. My people came from Germany many generations ago and brought with them some interesting food recipes. Christmas was always special at my grandmaws house because she would fix goose with pork sausage and garlic dressing . Grandmaw would get a pretty good size goose and stuff it with 10 lbs. of loose sausage laced with half a large garlic. If you know anything about a goose, you know that they are mostly fat, so when the goose and the pork sausage were baked for 3 hours in the oven, the result was 2in. of grease in the bottom of the roaster. The meal was delecious but here's the good part, in a couple days when the meat was gone, gfrandmaw would heat upthe roaster untyil the grease was liquified, then, pour it through a muslin rag in to jelly jars. In a few hours it would harden in to a white butter-like consistency.

Now,what happens to this "FOOD", when I got home from school hungry as are most kids,k grandmaw would take out the jar with the GOOSEGREASE, get out two slices of white bread and spread them thick with the white grease, put salt on top of the grease and WA-LA instant after school snack. I'am 66 years old and I can still remember the great taste.

About 3 years ago I had a heart attack, cloged arteries, I WONDER!!!!!!!!

DON

[fantail1]

Hi Don

I think you made a good cause and effect connection there!

As you may know a lot of UK Christmas traditions started in the mid 19th Century, when Prince Albert (married to Queen Victoria) brought German traditions to the UK. Christmas trees etc. The goose was the preferred meat at that time. Today is is the Turkey, which is about as dry an opposite to the goose as you can get. No wonder the celebrity chefs on TV advocate the goose.

I just had a medical at work so I am waiting for the results - so best not think about these things too much!

David

[Ranchufan16]

I am sorry - I thought you had got the answers and the problem was resolved.

thats fine but if you could start a different thread then that would be appreciated it, there is a section at the bottom of the site for non-goldfish related threads.