Question About Velvet

[SeaWitch]

I ws wondering if a fish regains its original coloring after having velvet? A friend of mine has a fish that he is treating for velvet and he has been using CopperSafe for 10 days as of today. He says the fish is still not the correct color that it was and as I have no experience with velvet, I could not tell him if it takes a while for the color to come back OR if that means the fish still has the velvet.:youtellme: Also, as I was researching treaments for him, CopperSafe seemed to be the treatment of choice. Is there any other treatment for velvet? Thanks!

[Cincy Ranchu]

This is a wierd thing to have on a Goldfish, seems to me she could have Costia or Chilodinella? Add salt!

[bekko]

The GSA book and Matsui's book are the only ones which even mention velvet. Matsui says "Not usually considered a disease of goldfish, it is frequently transmitted from an infected tropical fish tank." Matsui says to treat with copper sulfate (dangerous stuff) or by putting ten copper pennies per gallon of water. I thought the penny trick was pretty neat, but Matsui was writing when pennies were pure copper and not copper-plated zinc.

-steve

[SeaWitch]

It is def. velvet and yes, we have done the whole salt thing, too. His fish have been through the ringer. He was a newb and didn't understand cycling, so he let his ammonia get up to 8ppm in the tank. He has two GF and one of them developed bad sores at first. We treated those and now that fish is better (just black now as it is recovering from ammonia burns). The other fish has been worse. He Prazied both the fish twice and this particular fish KEPT flashing, then, it turned a dusty, brown color and shows all the symptoms of velvet. I even got Trinket from KGW to help me out with it and she confirmed the velvet. For any of you who know Trinket, then you know she is one of the BEST when it comes to treating and diagnosing sick fish.
However, his fish is still that same dusty brown and is still flashing! I don't know what to do at this point.:youtellme:

[bekko]

CopperSafe

-steve

[suphi]

Acriflavine (yellow-brown powder) is another good treatment option, but that's not the big picture here.

We're treating fish with ammonia burn (8ppm is very high), so the color you're seeing is likely from skin necrosis (dead skin tissues). The fish is gonna flash for awhile because its skin is irritated (imagine yourself having a bad skin burn)...adding extra chemicals into the water including coppersafe can probably make it worse.

Ten days of coppersafe should be plenty to ward off unwanted parasites, what the fish really needs now is just fresh clean water with zero ammonia and nitrite and near zero nitrate. Just IMO.

[SeaWitch]

Steve, he ran CopperSafe for 12 days.

Suphi, I know what ammonia burns looks like and he actually has one that is black right now with healing ammonia burns. This fish is not black, but has turned a dusty brown color, like someone rolled it in cinnamon or something.