hello

[cooltow1]

Hello from Sarasota Florida
I have been a member for sometime now (lurking)
I have a small breeding hobby were I rise mainly SVR and TVR


Rick

[SeaWitch]

Welcome Rick!!!

[Veil Gal]

Rick, Welcome aboard, and glad to know there is another hobby breeder. I think the future of fancy goldfish in the USA depends on dedicated hobbyists.

[sweetshannon]

Welcome! Got any pics?:angel:

[Ajno]

Welcome, I remember you from GFP.

[Jed]

Welcome to Goldfish Keepers! :)

[cooltow1]

Welcome, I remember you from GFP.

I miss that forum, so much information was forever lost

Rick

[Ichthius]

Hi Rick

It looks like you're using other peoples images as your own all over the net.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...t=embedwebsite

Can you please give proper attribution when using other peoples images?

I see that you have taken videos of mine and are using them. Please only use my materials with proper attribution to www.goldfishgarage.com.

Thank you.

[Ichthius]

http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/new-calico-oranda-its-way-13520-2.html

This guy is claiming that Ed from Goldfish Utopia buys fish from him... oh and watch out for gill flukes!

What an idiot. Every goldfish has ich and flukes until proven otherwise.

Stop stealing peoples content and passing it off as your own.

[marlin08]

http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/new-calico-oranda-its-way-13520-2.html

This guy is claiming that Ed from Goldfish Utopia buys fish from him... oh and watch out for gill flukes!

What an idiot. Every goldfish has ich and flukes until proven otherwise.

Stop stealing peoples content and passing it off as your own.
He downloaded my pictures, too, from the MGKS 2010 goldfish pictures that I posted a link to on here. I found them on another forum with him saying they were his fish and he showed them at MGKS THIS year....interesting, 2 of the fish are deceased....His picasa albums are FULL of our pictures, I recognized some of Ichthius, HN Lim and maybe Dan's. I don't have a problem with that so much if it is just because he likes the fish.....the thing that is disturbing is that I keep finding them used on other forums all over the internet with the implication and deception that they are his pictures and his fish.

https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/Oranda#
https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/TVR#
https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/GoldfishVideo#
https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/SVR#
I'm also getting conflicting information on what constitutes "infringement". Can anyone clarify?

[Vahlla]

http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/new-calico-oranda-its-way-13520-2.html

This guy is claiming that Ed from Goldfish Utopia buys fish from him... oh and watch out for gill flukes!

What an idiot. Every goldfish has ich and flukes until proven otherwise.

Stop stealing peoples content and passing it off as your own.

Got 2 birds with one stone when I looked at that thread. Jaytard and this Rick dude. Both just a couple of....well I'm not going to bash I guess but I will keep an eye out for any content that he is stealing from you guys. I'm not sure how the laws work as far as pictures online. If he is claiming that they are his then there may be something that can be done. Hopefully someone will come along that can let you know for sure.

[Ichthius]

Here's some of the other stuff. It's interesting not a single response from cooltow1...

http://goldfishkeepers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31404#post31404
http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/new-calico-oranda-its-way-13520.html
http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/goldfish-show-13236.html
http://board.fishchannel.com/Topic174068-22-1.aspx#bm174073
Using my wet dry 29 gallon diy as his own (I can't seem to post with mac here but would call him out too):

[marlin08]

Here's some of the other stuff. It's interesting not a single response from cooltow1...

http://goldfishkeepers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31404#post31404
http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/new-calico-oranda-its-way-13520.html
http://www.aquariumforum.com/f65/goldfish-show-13236.html
http://board.fishchannel.com/Topic174068-22-1.aspx#bm174073
Using my wet dry 29 gallon diy as his own (I can't seem to post with mac here but would call him out too):
I have a Mac, too, and tried to post a question about information blatantly stolen from someone else on that forum as well and it wouldn't work...sounds like you have to have Internet Explorer to post

[Realgoldfish]

Here a link regarding copyright and taking material from other website. down in the middle you will find more informations about the web. I do publish postcards and I know a little about this. How low can you, go taking photos from others.

http://www.whatiscopyright.org/

[Realgoldfish]

Here a link regarding copyright and taking material from other website. down in the middle you will find more informations about the web. I do publish postcards and I know a little about this. How low can you, go taking photos from others.

http://www.whatiscopyright.org/


Here one more link, that you may want to read. You don't need to copyright your photos it is already copyrighted .

http://www.photosecrets.com/how-to-copyright-a-photo.html

[marlin08]

Here one more link, that you may want to read. You don't need to copyright your photos it is already copyrighted .

http://www.photosecrets.com/how-to-copyright-a-photo.html
Great article!
In summary, as I am understanding it:
When you take the photo, you own the copyright. You can get it officially "copywrighted" but it's not necessary unless you foresee a need to sue for compensatory damages if someone is making money off of it. If a photograph that you took and have not officially signed over rights to, is copied for use other than personal (not published), it is infringement and that person can be subject to punitive damages in a court of law.

These might be good articles to sticky up in the top area of threads about posting pictures and such....

[Realgoldfish]

Great article!
In summary, as I am understanding it:
When you take the photo, you own the copyright. You can get it officially "copywrighted" but it's not necessary unless you foresee a need to sue for compensatory damages if someone is making money off of it. If a photograph that you took and have not officially signed over rights to, is copied for use other than personal (not published), it is infringement and that person can be subject to punitive damages in a court of law.

These might be good articles to sticky up in the top area of threads about posting pictures and such....

:exact: This is the way it goes in Canada, and now I found this one out in the U.S.
Real

[Realgoldfish]

:exact: This is the way it goes in Canada, and now I found this one out in the U.S.
Real

One more thing I forgot to mention is the cost of copyright for photos in the U.S. is $59.00. For one photo or all the photos you have as long as you can send them all the copies.

Hoping this can help you out.

[kendal]

be careful to not go overboard here.

"Fair Use (or Fair Dealing in some countries) permits copying for some purposes, but is a complex issue. Generally, copying is permitted for personal use, research, teaching, criticism, parody, news reporting and editorial use.
Beyond that, the law is deliberately vague and is decided on a case-by-case basis. A lawyer can render an opinion, but there’s no accurate answer until a case is adjudicated by a court. Questions include: how commercial was the use, has the market of the original work been affected, how different is the derivative work, has a significant amount of work been copied. Note that “fair use” is an “affirmative defense", where the infringer has the burden of proof to show that the use was indeed fair."


fair use is a very broad concept. unless the use is commercial and someone is receiving or losing monetary gain as a result of usage, you are likely in the fair use zone. if i am a comercial photographer and post images in a photobucket for sale and someone takes them it is different than if i am not a professional photographer, i don't sell photos, and i post them for the world to see.

copyright in the modern age is more appropriately called "usage" rights. without monetary loss or gain, infringement is really hard to prove especially if the owner posted them in a public forum such as photobucket or here without an attached statement about their intent to restrict usage. otherwise it is implied fair use within the areas related in the quote. if you don't want others using your images, you must state that (preferable in the image) otherwise permission is implied as you gave the file away by posting it.

using photos you that do not belong to you and claiming they are yours is pretty low, no question about that, but being a dirtball is not something you can sue for—you have to prove monetary loss/damages. the courts and laws have stayed clear of anything "clear" regarding fair use and copyright on the web. without being able to attach a $ lost or gained, there is little case for a breach of traditional copyright. this guy has come very close by claiming the stolen images are his, but i don't think it approaches anything prosecutable.

always give credit where credit is due, that's the rule of thumb in my book on such matters. (that and don't sell what you steal.)

[Realgoldfish]

be careful to not go overboard here.

"Fair Use (or Fair Dealing in some countries) permits copying for some purposes, but is a complex issue. Generally, copying is permitted for personal use, research, teaching, criticism, parody, news reporting and editorial use.
Beyond that, the law is deliberately vague and is decided on a case-by-case basis. A lawyer can render an opinion, but there’s no accurate answer until a case is adjudicated by a court. Questions include: how commercial was the use, has the market of the original work been affected, how different is the derivative work, has a significant amount of work been copied. Note that “fair use” is an “affirmative defense", where the infringer has the burden of proof to show that the use was indeed fair."


fair use is a very broad concept. unless the use is commercial and someone is receiving or losing monetary gain as a result of usage, you are likely in the fair use zone. if i am a comercial photographer and post images in a photobucket for sale and someone takes them it is different than if i am not a professional photographer, i don't sell photos, and i post them for the world to see.

copyright in the modern age is more appropriately called "usage" rights. without monetary loss or gain, infringement is really hard to prove especially if the owner posted them in a public forum such as photobucket or here without an attached statement about their intent to restrict usage. otherwise it is implied fair use within the areas related in the quote. if you don't want others using your images, you must state that (preferable in the image) otherwise permission is implied as you gave the file away by posting it.

using photos you that do not belong to you and claiming they are yours is pretty low, no question about that, but being a dirtball is not something you can sue for—you have to prove monetary loss/damages. the courts and laws have stayed clear of anything "clear" regarding fair use and copyright on the web. without being able to attach a $ lost or gained, there is little case for a breach of traditional copyright. this guy has come very close by claiming the stolen images are his, but i don't think it approaches anything prosecutable.

always give credit where credit is due, that's the rule of thumb in my book on such matters. (that and don't sell what you steal.)

Your right, if someone would take one of my photos and sell then all over the stores I would take action, otherwise it is not worthed the legal fees.

[Ichthius]

For me it's about outing this creep. The harm is really to those in the other forums who thought he was what he was portraying.

I think we should put this to bed and take down the warning. Lets not let this troll live on.

PS. All the other forums have shut down that user name and we should do the same so they do not have access to the content of this site (atleast under that name).

[mikroll]

he has also taken a lot of my photos and used them as his own in europe forums.

[HNLim]

He downloaded my pictures, too, from the MGKS 2010 goldfish pictures that I posted a link to on here. I found them on another forum with him saying they were his fish and he showed them at MGKS THIS year....interesting, 2 of the fish are deceased....His picasa albums are FULL of our pictures, I recognized some of Ichthius, HN Lim and maybe Dan's. I don't have a problem with that so much if it is just because he likes the fish.....the thing that is disturbing is that I keep finding them used on other forums all over the internet with the implication and deception that they are his pictures and his fish.

https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/Oranda#
https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/TVR#
https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/GoldfishVideo#
https://picasaweb.google.com/cooltow/SVR#
I'm also getting conflicting information on what constitutes "infringement". Can anyone clarify?
Very interesting indeed! I see at least 20 pictures of my fish there. Someone even used pictures of my tikus claiming them to be theirs. Oh well, at least the truth is out there.