Just wondering, not sure if this is the right place for this post... I have been keeping butterfly telescopes for a while and I have had many shipments sent to me through the mail and never had a problem. I usually go to Dandy Orandas bc they are good quality fish. I hate that they only do auctions though and recently Ken said he was not doing the auctions again until December, so I have been trying to find another quality place to get some new stock. I was looking for pandas and I came across King Koi. I w as hesitant about getting fish from an outside source but decided to give it a try. I had my qt tank set up and ready to go. The first shipment...yes, FIRST. Was really sad. They put all three fish in one bag that was almost deflated and when I opened it it literally smelled like death. I don't even know how to describe how bad the smell was. It just smelt like sick, nasty fish mixed with something decaying. I took them all out and transferred them after getting them temp acclimated. Immediately two of them were on their last leg, gasping for air and the third did not look good. The two died within the hour and the last one died later that evening. they were bleeding so I emailed the lady and told her..I think her name was Lauren. She was really great in offering to send me new fish or giving me a refund. I was hesitant to get more fish from them, but I chalked it up to something going wrong in the shipping process and ordered three more hand selected fish. I told her that the bag smelled awful and asked if she could individually bag the three new fish which she agreed to. So when I received my three new fish again, I opened and inspected them and they seemed alright. I floated their bags in the qt tank for a while until the temps were the same and when I opened their bags to put them in the tank it AGAIN smelled like death. Each one of them. while tranferring them to the qt tank I noticed they had an excessive slime coat and appeared to be frail. So flash forward to the next morning-two were dead and the third was at the bottom gasping. I immediately took the two dead ones out, did a 90% water change and treated the tank with Dr Tims (When I received the last batch I treated them with prazi pro and after they died I decided to hold off on treating the tank for a few days/week.). Anywho, after changing the water and adding aquarium salt/Dr Tim's the last fish perked up and was swimming around normal. I kept a close eye on him and the next morning I woke up and he was dead. Just to give you a background- I have had this qt tank set up, the water was at appropriate levels and the nitrogen cycle was complete. There was no reason that both batches died on my behalf because I've done everything right on my end. I have come to the conclusion that it is their fish, and that they do not tank any measures to treat their fish (even though it says so on their website). They must have went into shock from going from the nasty water they came in to my clean warm water. When I emailed Lauren back I told her the situation, that my tank was tested and up to par and that the water AGAIN smelled like death. I told her that I unfortunately would not be a returning customer. She never replied which makes me believe she knew they were bad quality. So, with all that said. I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue with KK? I see alot of people on here suggesting them to people who are looking for new merchants and it's making me wonder if it was just me or if other people have had similar experiences. I've seen one other person say they had bad fish from there. Also, if anyone knows another source of good fish besides dandy orandas/waterpigs usa or costal gems i'd appreciate it!