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Is this ich?

Discussion in 'All Questions from Newbies' started by Pepeperon, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. Pepeperon

    Pepeperon Active Member

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    Hi, just recently posted my first post and back again.

    I want to ask you guys if this could be ich.

    I have 6 goldfish( please don’t tell me my tank is too small cuz I already know that) and have been doing daily water changes so that my fish can stay as healthy as they can. Unfortunately, I can’t buy test kits in Japan that tests nitrate and nitrite, but I was able to find an ammonia kit. My readings were between 0 and .25mg/l.

    Now I have noticed 1 or 2 small white dots on 3 of my goldfish this week. Those white spots have not increased this past week. I have seen them brush against the gravel bottom a few times but only 1 or 2 times from just one fish. They are swimming, eating fine and acting the same.

    Japanese people say to add 5 grams of salt per litre. Which in my case is 55 litres which makes it 275 grams. Just seems so crazy to me.

    I have attached a picture of my choubi with one white spot on its tail. IMG_2891.JPG


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  2. shakaho

    shakaho Well-Known Member

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    If the spots don't increase in number, it's not ich. The salt treatment you describe sounds good, but I recommend that you raise the salt concentration gradually.
     
  3. Pepeperon

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    I’ve heard they come in cycles and come back depending on my fishes condition. Not sure if I should add the salt or medication yet or is this an early enough sign where I can jump on those?


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  4. shakaho

    shakaho Well-Known Member

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    If this is ich, You expect to see an explosion in the number of spots. Salt is harmless, so if the worry you, add 1 gram of salt per liter, then add the same amount daily for 4 more days. Check with the Japanese about how long to maintain that salt concentration.
     
  5. Pepeperon

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    So it seems like all the white spots are gone but my ranchu seems to be stressed about something. He still eats and swims a little bit back goes back in his corner. Any ideas? Checked ammonia again but seems like it’s steady at 0.25 or less.[​IMG]


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  6. Cheyenne B.

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    It's the ammonia level. I know 0.25 seems like nothing but in aquatics, anything other than zero is dangerous to fish. Please do a water change immediately and treat with Prime, if it is available. How often do you usually do water changes?
     
  7. Pepeperon

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    Thanks for the reply,
    I have been doing water changes everyday for 14 days straight now ranging from 20-60%. I also did one this morning and realized I may have to do more than 60%. I plan to do 75-90 tomorrow to see if it will drop. S/he has been a lot more active after my last water change and definitely resting a lot less than earlier this morning.


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  8. Pepeperon

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    I used to have a smaller tank with 2 fish that I had running since end of June and moved all the rocks, plants and filter to the bigger tank. I now have a more powerful filter on my main tank and have taken out the old one(which I regret doing...should of kept it till it cycled fully). If ammonia doesn’t drop, I will consider purchasing another external filter.


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  9. Cheyenne B.

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    More than likely you will have to do more. Last summer I was cycling a 60 gallon tank. I was doing 80% daily water changes for 6 weeks. Once you start getting 0 for ammonia you can maybe skip a day and see how it changes, just monitor the fish closely.
     
  10. Pepeperon

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    Thanks, I won’t skip a day until I see that 0 number. The kits here sold in Japan are the tetra’s and it’s really hard to tell what kind of ammonia level I’m at. I have heard API is good but not available in Japan. Maybe I can post my readings here tomorrow and u guys can give me a second reading.


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  11. Pepeperon

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    Update: just finished my water change for the day...already swimming better last night but looks even better today!
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    In a rush to go out so I’ll check ammonia when I get back.


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  12. Cheyenne B.

    Cheyenne B. Well-Known Member

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    Good! If you take the time to watch the fish, they will tell you when something is wrong. When they start acting different, 99% of the time, there's a water quality issue.
     
  13. Pepeperon

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    I hope overwatching them doesn’t cause stress.


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  14. Cheyenne B.

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    Oh goodness no. Most of my aquariums are in high traffic areas, I see them all the time.
     
  15. Pepeperon

    Pepeperon Active Member

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    That’s good to know as our tank is set up right behind my living room sofa.


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  16. Pepeperon

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    It seems like the white spots are starting to creep up a little. I can clearly see maybe close to 7-10 on them now. When I had ich on my previous fish years ago, I remember seeing lots on them and almost in no time. Am I suppose to be concerned yet?[​IMG]


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